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Faces of AI: Why Everyone Is Right (And Wrong)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PHASTzGhQI
https://integrallife.com/why-everyone-is-right-and-wrong-about-ai/


0:00Artificial [music] intelligence is humanity's most complex challenge, but it's also our greatest opportunity.
0:055 seconds[music]
0:055 secondsIt's our right of passage. Because if we can coordinate to unleash AI's power responsibly, then we can coordinate to
0:1313 secondsdo anything. [music] We are not building AI. Our misaligned incentives are building AI. The idea isn't to align
0:2222 seconds[music] AI with the current state of humanity and our misaligned incentives.
0:2727 secondsthe ideas for [music] like humanity to realign ourselves.
0:3131 secondsAligning AI to what? No, exactly. We are we are as misaligned. Our axle is fundamentally broken.
0:3737 secondsThe truth is none of you yet know how to navigate this landscape because AI's complexity is [music] greater than any
0:4444 secondsone individual mind can grasp. So the task at hand is to identify the kernels
0:5151 secondsof truth you're each holding and then integrate them [music] into a more comprehensive view.
0:5858 secondsYou know the demand for integral is still fairly low. sadly low. I mean you know the demand for integration is
1:051 minute, 5 secondsrapidly increasing right because we are just uh so polarized around every possible I mean there is literally I
1:131 minute, 13 secondscannot think of a single issue a single issue um that has not just been completely polarized and politicized all
1:201 minute, 20 secondsthe way down to like the halftime show at the Super Bowl right I mean absolutely everything gets pushed
1:271 minute, 27 secondsthrough this you know lens of polarization and politicization and it all it really ends up doing is just
1:351 minute, 35 secondsreinforcing the aspect of our identity that we have the least control over.
1:401 minute, 40 secondsRight? It reinforces sort of this this performative uh political identity that's like way out at the outer edge of
1:481 minute, 48 secondsour identity and it's also the the aspect of our identity that we have the least control over. And all of this that's where it hooks us. That's where
1:551 minute, 55 secondsall of this um uh polarization, it hooks us and it sort of forces us into these false dichotoies and these false choices
2:032 minutes, 3 secondsuh between this this direction or that direction. Um and you know that's actually what I really love about the series that you're doing is you're pointing out like it's not this or that.
2:122 minutes, 12 secondsIt's not A or B. It's not either or.
2:142 minutes, 14 secondsThere is another path here and you simply need to develop the capacity to see that path. Right? Not everyone can
2:222 minutes, 22 secondssee the path until it's pointed out and you're doing just such an incredible job of actually pointing it out. Um, so you know, well done. Well done. Yeah. Let's jump into the video.
2:312 minutes, 31 secondsThank you. Let's let's jump into the video. Let's Let's do it. All right.
2:372 minutes, 37 secondsLet's do it. [laughter] Artificial intelligence is the greatest force multiplier we have ever known.
2:472 minutes, 47 secondsI think you mean the most destructive force ever known. Cancer, poverty, climate change. AI solves it all. Every
2:562 minutes, 56 secondsday we delay is another day of preventable suffering. Time to let it rip. More like time to pull the plug.
3:033 minutes, 3 secondsWe're racing to build minds vastly more capable than ours with zero guarantee they will care about us. Our greater intelligence has not fared well for
3:103 minutes, 10 secondsother species. Come on. Artificial super intelligence is decades, if not centuries, away. AI today is just
3:193 minutes, 19 secondssophisticated pattern matching with a marketing budget. We got plenty of time. Time is precisely what we don't have.
3:263 minutes, 26 secondsWhile you're all debating hypotheticals, China is building AI for social control. If we slow down, authoritarian AI wins.
3:453 minutes, 45 secondsWhich is why we need to not only get there first, but also get it right. We care about the safety of our users.
3:523 minutes, 52 secondsTrust us, we're on it. I admire your optimism, but the genie is out the bottle. It's not a question of whether we build it, but who gets there first.
4:004 minutesYeah, but we don't even know where there is. We have no idea what awaits us with AI, and especially not super intelligent
4:084 minutes, 8 secondsAI. Plus, we did technically get there first with social media, and we're more divided and confused than we've ever
4:164 minutes, 16 secondsbeen. Well, we'll all be united in death if these AI labs rush on super intelligence. Do you not realize you're building a technology more dangerous
4:244 minutes, 24 secondsthan nukes, and you expect it to not incinerate civilization? But we did create nuclear safeguards, and nukes
4:314 minutes, 31 secondshaven't incinerated civilization. Yeah, but we had so many nuclear close calls during the Cold War. Frankly, [music] it's a miracle we're even still here.
4:394 minutes, 39 secondsThe real miracle is this beautiful web of life we're all a part of. And I worry it may not even be able to coexist with
4:464 minutes, 46 secondsartificial intelligence. We may be bringing about our own obsolescence.
4:504 minutes, 50 secondsMore like bringing about our transcendence. AI can liberate us from these biological constraints that have caused millennia of suffering. Our
4:594 minutes, 59 secondsbiology is developed from millions of years of evolution. You want to alter it after a few years of AI research? That's not wisdom, my dear. That's hubris.
5:095 minutes, 9 seconds[music] Tell that to the parents who's watching their kids die of diseases we could have already cured. Your lite thinking is trapping us in humanity 1.0
5:185 minutes, 18 secondswhen we could be ascending the cardv scale and spreading intelligence across the universe. Ascending the cardv scale?
5:255 minutes, 25 secondsWhat? All I see are a bunch of trumped up autocomplete bots being treated like sci-fi oracles. Frankly, you sound a bit like one yourself.
5:345 minutes, 34 secondsExcuse me. [sighs and gasps] While you're all debating philosophical fantasies, AI is harming real people
5:415 minutes, 41 secondsright now. Gig workers are getting replaced by algorithms. Facial recognition is turning minority neighborhoods into digital police
5:495 minutes, 49 secondsstates. Data centers are emitting more carbon than some countries, while you claim it's a climate solution. Oh, and
5:575 minutes, 57 secondsdon't get me started on wealth inequality. The rich keep just getting richer and richer while you automate away all our livelihoods. [music]
6:046 minutes, 4 secondsAnd still none of this matters if you build a super intelligence. Look, every transformative technology creates
6:116 minutes, 11 secondschallenges. The printing press also destabilize society. We don't abandon fire because it can burn us. We learn
6:186 minutes, 18 secondshow to use it. AI is no different. AI is wildly different. It isn't just one civilizational risk. It's an accelerant
6:276 minutes, 27 secondsto all of them. Bioteterrorism, drone swarms, cyber attacks, social unrest. AI
6:336 minutes, 33 secondsis turbocharging them all. Why do you people always focus on the bad stuff?
6:386 minutes, 38 secondsYou're just for hype so he gets more money.
6:426 minutes, 42 secondsI don't want to be under their authoritarianism.
6:476 minutes, 47 secondsWhat the is wrong with people? You're just living in the future when there's real problems now. My darling humans,
6:536 minutes, 53 secondshow wonderful that you all care so much about what may well be the most consequential technology ever built. The
7:027 minutes, 2 secondsissue is you each think you're exclusively right, but the reality is you're all partially right, which means
7:117 minutes, 11 secondsyou're partially wrong. And some [music] of you are highly incentivized to ignore your blind spots. There are many wrong
7:197 minutes, 19 secondsways to build AI. Too [music] fast, too slow, too centralized, too anarctic. So
7:277 minutes, 27 secondsyou have all found different failure modes we need to avoid. [music] The truth is none of you yet know how to
7:347 minutes, 34 secondsnavigate this landscape because AI's complexity is greater than any one individual mind can grasp. So [music]
7:427 minutes, 42 secondsthe task at hand is to identify the kernels of truth you're each holding and [music] then integrate them into a more
7:507 minutes, 50 secondscomprehensive view. And how exactly are we going to do that? Well, we need just a better sense of what's actually going on in the labs. [music] So how about
7:597 minutes, 59 secondssome transparency? Like maybe the labs can disclose their development process [music] and their safety protocols long before they deploy, but only if
8:088 minutes, 8 secondslawmakers actually know what to do with that. And how about some whistleblower protections [music] so employees can actually report risks
8:148 minutes, 14 secondswithout facing retaliation? And what if all these monumental [music] decisions aren't made in closed boardrooms, but by
8:228 minutes, 22 secondsrepresentatives of humanity's collective interests? Yes, perhaps. But ultimately, this isn't about being [music] pro or
8:308 minutes, 30 secondsanti- AAI, but about collaboratively facing the complex reality [music] of it. It's about staying focused on your
8:398 minutes, 39 secondspart but within [music] the context of the larger whole. In other words, it's about doing the synthesis. I mean, of
8:488 minutes, 48 secondscourse, I would [music] say that. But really, we do need all your viewpoints.
8:538 minutes, 53 secondsArtificial intelligence is humanity's [music] most complex challenge, but it's also our greatest opportunity. It's our right of passage [music] because if we
9:039 minutes, 3 secondscan coordinate to unleash AI's power responsibly, then we can coordinate to do [music] anything.
9:139 minutes, 13 seconds[music]
9:199 minutes, 19 secondsSo well done. Oh, just so well done, Stephanie. Congratulations. Um what a fantastic episode that was. And like ju
9:289 minutes, 28 secondsI imagine just the wardrobe budget alone was [laughter] [clears throat] astronomical.
9:349 minutes, 34 secondsI mean well we we returned pretty much everything. It was a industry secret.
9:399 minutes, 39 secondsThank you Amazon. Yeah. Um and so it was a combo of Liv's like Burning Man clothing. Thank you Liv and um Amazon's return policy.
9:519 minutes, 51 seconds[laughter]
9:529 minutes, 52 secondsSo well done. And she is she is just so enjoyable. Yeah. She's She's really got a presence on the screen. Yeah. Yeah.
9:599 minutes, 59 secondsAnd she's uh I always love it.
10:0110 minutes, 1 secondThe speed of the costume changes that was like she had to like go in and out of character very fast. Yeah.
10:0710 minutes, 7 secondsYeah. How long did this take to shoot altogether?
10:0910 minutes, 9 secondsUm it took a whole day which I don't know I want to say I don't know seven hours.
10:1510 minutes, 15 secondsIt it's it's it's surprising how long. I mean, a lot of it is like moving the cameras around, you know, but it's it
10:2310 minutes, 23 secondsfeels really fast actually once you get on set and then Yeah. It's you're you're you're going to get through it because you want to give each character like at least two takes to choose between. Yep.
10:3410 minutes, 34 secondsAnd you have to do all of their lines at once and then if you if you forget one of them because then you have to go back and make sure the camera is in the
10:4210 minutes, 42 secondsright. Yeah. So, it's a whole reaction shot. I mean, it seems like amazing.
10:4710 minutes, 47 secondsIt seems like every character gets a reaction shot whenever another character is talking and that takes time. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
10:5310 minutes, 53 secondsWell, well done. What a production. And of course, you know, this uh it um it resonates with uh with some of the earliest videos that we used to do
11:0111 minutes, 1 secondhere on Integral Life or really back in the day, Integral Naked. We used to have uh a series of episodes uh from Stuart Davis called the Steuart Davis show
11:0911 minutes, 9 secondsand the whole premise was Stuart talking to his two clones. So, it was always three Stewarts uh in conversation. If I remember right, it was often like the
11:1711 minutes, 17 secondspre-rational Stewart, the rational Stewart, and then transrational Stewart.
11:2211 minutes, 22 secondsUm, getting into high jinks and buffoonery.
11:2511 minutes, 25 secondsUm, so so a a uh a very uh long and proud tradition of um Yes. of cloning here at Integral Life. Nice.
11:3311 minutes, 33 secondsYeah. And you know what a great you you chose I think just the ideal kind of cast of characters uh for this video. So you had, let's see, you had like the
11:4011 minutes, 40 secondsaccelerationist, the pessimist, the uh the AI builder, the geopolitical realist, the uh the AI skeptic, um the
11:4911 minutes, 49 secondshumanist, um uh I I'm I'm forgetting at least three or four.
11:5411 minutes, 54 secondsChina. Yeah, I love I love that in the thumbnail. Got to have China.
11:5711 minutes, 57 secondsI love the thumbnail how it's like it's naming all these like and they all end in and then it's just like China.
12:0312 minutes, 3 seconds[laughter]
12:0412 minutes, 4 secondsThat was hilarious. who also can be steelman in a way that we don't often appreciate. Totally. So, totally. I loved that line. Keep on
12:1212 minutes, 12 secondsarguing keep building. I love that. It was so like [laughter] passive aggressively perfect.
12:1712 minutes, 17 secondsUm well, and each of these characters of course has something essential to contribute to the conversation, right? It's it's an
12:2512 minutes, 25 secondsessential perspective that can't just be written off. Um even even the perspectives where you kind of might roll your eyes a little bit when they come on screen. Like I noticed like the
12:3312 minutes, 33 secondshumanist is sometimes played as like sort of a joke in a way, right? Like, oh, there's the got some wisdom.
12:4012 minutes, 40 secondsExactly. Exactly. And that needs to be folded in. Right. Absolutely needs to be folded in. Um, so I'm curious like as
12:4712 minutes, 47 secondsyou were developing the script, which of these voices did you feel biased towards or biased against? Um, which which of
12:5512 minutes, 55 secondsthese voices was sort of hardest for you to write and to inhabit?
13:0013 minutesYeah. I mean because because we we we ultimately we want to represent them but this is also you know this is also meant
13:0813 minutes, 8 secondsto it's it there is obviously some humor here and so it probably looks like yeah obviously the the ones who kind of seem
13:1713 minutes, 17 secondsmost thrown under the bus not not because of but but just because of the way that we kind of played with the character are the the the ethics
13:2513 minutes, 25 secondsadvocate I can't remember if that's exact the one with the megaphone trying to get into the conversation. Yep.
13:3113 minutes, 31 secondsGets a little but honestly the one that I probably struggle with the most personally um is probably the accelerationist is probably the eak.
13:4113 minutes, 41 secondsUm although but I think in terms of in terms of the costume like granted some of them seem more made fun of than
13:4913 minutes, 49 secondsothers but in terms of the script itself I think if you just read the script you would see that they're all making key points and they're all making them well.
13:5913 minutes, 59 secondsMhm.
13:5913 minutes, 59 secondsUm, but as far as so I think you could you could also see how the synthesis kind of ended up being a little more of like a PSA for integral than it was like
14:0814 minutes, 8 secondsa true Sure.
14:0914 minutes, 9 secondsSo if I were to offer just a couple points that I think an integral perspective on AI
14:1514 minutes, 15 secondswould make I like one of them is the polarity. So one one one polarity that
14:2414 minutes, 24 secondswe're we're kind of straddling here is the polarity of uh innovation and safety.
14:3314 minutes, 33 secondsYep.
14:3414 minutes, 34 secondsSo that would that would have been one one kind of integral piece that could have been thrown in there is that is the is the idea of the idea isn't to choose
14:4214 minutes, 42 secondsbetween innovation and safety of course but to hold innovation and safety in dynamic equilibrium.
14:4914 minutes, 49 secondsBut then if we go a little further, we can say maybe I'll just add a couple things and I'll see how you respond. If we go further, we would say with that
14:5814 minutes, 58 secondsidea, I mean the the our our our economic our political and economic
15:0415 minutes, 4 secondscontext is set up in a way that is certainly more conducive to innovation than it is to safety.
15:1315 minutes, 13 secondsRight? these ultimately these these companies especially when they go public they're they are held accountable not necessarily to safety but to maximizing
15:2215 minutes, 22 secondsshort-term you know quarterly earnings and so the other the the the real key point that I would have loved to make that I don't know if you I don't know if
15:2915 minutes, 29 secondsit would qualify as an integral point but the kind of like one key I'll be curious what you have to say a key point
15:3615 minutes, 36 secondsthat I would have loved to have made would have been something like we are not building AI our misaligned
15:4315 minutes, 43 secondsincentives are building AI. So whatever the proper balance between innovation and safety might be, we will never
15:5015 minutes, 50 secondsstrike it with our misaligned incentives at the helm. So yeah, so something like this isn't about being pro AI or
15:5815 minutes, 58 secondsanti-AI, but about creating the conditions conducive to, you know, safe innovation.
16:0516 minutes, 5 secondsHey everyone, Corey here. I hope you enjoyed this conversation with my very [music] good friend Stephanie Lep. If you want to check out the rest of the discussion, you can find it over at
16:1316 minutes, 13 secondsintegral life.com. Hope to see you there.
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